Spec & price for 650bhp pulsar please

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markwashington

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Fair point lawny.

For 3K you could get this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-GTR-SK...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a5bf03884

I'm guessing it'd probably cost the rest of your 10k to get it installed in the R plus gearbox etc but you'll have a car capable of stupid power (parts and money permitting) and one that will be a virtual one off, perhaps that's the next step for the R, once one person does it I don't see that it can't be done again, I guess if it fails we'll know it doesn't work. :-D

Let's be honest the first person to suggest putting a 2 litre engine in a Nova was probably laughed off the pages of Max power.
 
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markwashington

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I've just had a look on search and it appears that a GTR transplant cost around 12K in 2006, I don't know if it would be about that now and was by common consensus not worth the effort or cost. Just think 500bhp in a 1000kg (stripped out) car is madness, aim for that and when your 10k has been spent and you still haven't seen 400bhp, think again :-D
 
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pulsarboby

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gotta say i agree with this john doe fella!

the sr20det engine is a 20 year old design and is simply not capable of reliability at that power, neither is the gearbox.

you can build a road car to run that power but it definately will not be reliable, if your thinking of using it on the track then think againas you will have heat issues and boooom!:lol:
its taken me 5 years to work that one out and im not the only one whos spent thousands in finding out the hard way lol, look at all the old members who have sold up and moved on surely that will give you an inclination.

like has already been said.....go get a skybarge at least you have 6 men doing the work of 4;-)
i personally think 400bhp is the max these engines and drivetrain can handle with any sort of reliability.

good luck with the project though and happy shopping
 
red reading

red reading

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Just one thing to say ,the block itself will twist at 500lbft of torque and 650 bhp so it won't last long,and to build a engine that will handle that power and make it would cost you £10,000, shit just a bare linered block will be £1200+ depending on liners to be fitted,then you have a lot of other parts to go with that. the most power full cosworth lump i know of made 850bhp for a split second and then cracked the block in half and lifted the head at the same time!!! 850 for a split second and a scrap engine!!!
 
Dangerous Dave

Dangerous Dave

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red reading said:
Just one thing to say ,the block itself will twist at 500lbft of torque and 650 bhp so it won't last long,and to build a engine that will handle that power and make it would cost you £10,000, shit just a bare linered block will be £1200+ depending on liners to be fitted,then you have a lot of other parts to go with that. the most power full cosworth lump i know of made 850bhp for a split second and then cracked the block in half and lifted the head at the same time!!! 850 for a split second and a scrap engine!!!
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:shock::shock::shock: and am pissed of with yet another blown tubby, i would cry like a little girl if that was my project and that happenedd.
 
John

John

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I think its fair to say anyone who comes on an internet forum wanting to know about what it will take to build an all conquering SR20 for the Pulsar is dreaming.

As I said in my original post 10k is not enough, I even feel that 20k may be shy of what will be needed and in no way is that power going to reliable nor useable as a road car.

I have just under 400bhp and I believe that is the limit of the Sr20 to be reliable on a day to day basis and even then it isnt ever gonna be like a 1.4 sunny in terms of reliability!
 
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ChrisS

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if you want to see whats possible on a sr20 then youd do worse than to have a look at what mazworx can achieve http://www.mazworx.com. Having said that your limiting factor with the gtir is always going to be g/box and transmission.
 
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ChrisS

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John said:
I think its fair to say anyone who comes on an internet forum wanting to know about what it will take to build an all conquering SR20 for the Pulsar is dreaming.

As I said in my original post 10k is not enough, I even feel that 20k may be shy of what will be needed and in no way is that power going to reliable nor useable as a road car.

I have just under 400bhp and I believe that is the limit of the Sr20 to be reliable on a day to day basis and even then it isnt ever gonna be like a 1.4 sunny in terms of reliability!
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Depends how you drive it at the end of the day, a 400bhp pulsar driven hard constantly (ie bob using his on track) isnt like driving a a vectra/modeo ect day to day. I used a 300bhp pulsar day to day for over 60k without any reliability issues and that was driven hard prettty often. My current one is around 400bhp, i dont use it every day having had a company car for 4 yrs and wouldnt want to in fairness but ive had no trouble at all from it.
 
vss irvine

vss irvine

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id like to put money on it that i can build a 600hp car for less than £10k,

christ i already have most of the parts and im only at 4-5k, that includes the gearbox transmission and shell.

for someone starting out you will not do this for less than £20k, and even then you'll have to upgrade the rest of the car to cope with the power.

reliable daily driver, doubt it very much.
 
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JeremyGti-r

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Just out of interest what do you plan to use all this power for?
 
Trip

Trip

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Is our engine that bad ?? Since i've been on her i have seen all sorts of problems in our cars, due to high power and some due to age.

There are many engines of the same era which produce 650 FW/HP which won't go BANG after a few seconds. Case in point the YB200 and 4G63 engines which are early 90's. A friend of mine boost his YB to 2.2BAR on standard internals without any porblems. On the other side of the pond, i've seen many dyno graphs of SR20 motors doing over 500 WHP easily which should be around 550 FWHP on a rwd car.
 
Mad

Mad

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The best example I can give is Craig's old drag car, which was previously Jason Gant's. That was running 530bhp last year with a Quaife gearbox running many quarter mile events.

The engine and gearbox are still sweet without any problems.

With my first GTiR a few years ago, 400bhp was the marker, then 500bhp and now 600bhp.

I think with the age of the car, problems at any given bhp figure are going to happen at some stage and yes, if you drive the car flat out, every day with lots of bhp your going to have some problems as you would with any car.

People will always be wanting to push the boundaries out as it is human nature and I think we should encourage this without giving someone a hard time saying "it can't be done".

650bhp out of a reliable GTiR road car is of course very unrealistic at the moment but if someone was willing to spend the money Im sure it could be done :)
 
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