thats what i was told too , however at this stage we are using a scooby sti maf , dont ask me , two tuners seem to think it ok ,, as far as the q45 having a selection within the power fc i will run this past them tommorro as i think im gonna be charged for the sti maf , should be getting the car back tommorro .. does everyone suffer with this bad idle or can it be sorted ,, i know its a inherant R bugbear but i cant see what s left to make the idle so bad .. cheers for everyone s two pennith mucho appreciated