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Nopey sorry i am not able to send them as its the engineers who will hold the drawings!tenfoloten said:
tenfoloten
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I think you do the draw..
sorry
sorry
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jpward
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who mentioned wasted spark??? :der:noriek2003 said:
We are talking about power strokes here or are you telling people you have two power strokes in a 4cyl engine :lol:
noriek2003
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my mistake :doh:
i was talking about wasted spark set ups as ed has pointed out, as thats what i will be running on my gtir. Afraid to say im to used to worrying about my own set up, last time i concerned myself with a gtir dizzy was to look at taking it apart to only use the cas part of it. I was even considering selling my full set of gtir manuals in the week as they are about as much use to me now as tits on a fish :lol:
i was talking about wasted spark set ups as ed has pointed out, as thats what i will be running on my gtir. Afraid to say im to used to worrying about my own set up, last time i concerned myself with a gtir dizzy was to look at taking it apart to only use the cas part of it. I was even considering selling my full set of gtir manuals in the week as they are about as much use to me now as tits on a fish :lol:
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Thats correct!steve963 said:
firing order of 1-3-4-2
1 is Power stroke>exhaust stroke>Induction stroke>Compression Stroke
2 is Exhaust Stroke>Induction stroke>Compression stroke>Power stroke
3 is Compression stroke>Power stroke>Exhaust Stroke>Induction stroke
4 is Induction stroke>Compression stroke>Power stroke>Exhaust stroke
;-)
@ Snoon they should be close at 5250 as they are equal at 5252rpm ;-)
At which side of the Turbo are the blades missing? :shock:
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Here K I was told a good way to go is COP with say CBR coils rather than wasted spark, did you consider it?noriek2003 said:
Actually whats Edd's and others view on this? (too much hastle for little gains?)
noriek2003
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how much are you willing to offer me for them ? all 3, original workshop manuals ? very good condition, like rocking horse poop now, pm me if you'd prefer.
why will i be running wasted spark ?
standard dizzy based set up will not be up to the job on my car tbh. The standard dizzy/coil set up is not going to generate a good enough spark at the cylinder pressures or revs i'll eventually be running at, not with anything resembling a decent plug gap.
i'll now be running the m&w pro12 cdi unit with honda cbr coil on plugs 8)
Originally i was going to use a different ecu to what i have now and would've needed a crank trigger and cam phase sensor to run fully sequential, which tbh, i couldn't be bothered with, annoying thing now is with the motec i could be running full sequential ignition and injection for only slightly more money (different cdi required)
what i have will be more than up to the job so im not going to lose any sleep over it now tbh.
why will i be running wasted spark ?
standard dizzy based set up will not be up to the job on my car tbh. The standard dizzy/coil set up is not going to generate a good enough spark at the cylinder pressures or revs i'll eventually be running at, not with anything resembling a decent plug gap.
i'll now be running the m&w pro12 cdi unit with honda cbr coil on plugs 8)
Originally i was going to use a different ecu to what i have now and would've needed a crank trigger and cam phase sensor to run fully sequential, which tbh, i couldn't be bothered with, annoying thing now is with the motec i could be running full sequential ignition and injection for only slightly more money (different cdi required)
what i have will be more than up to the job so im not going to lose any sleep over it now tbh.
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I am gona guess its because you have 2 coils and more charge time between them giving a stronger spark at higher rpm'ssteve963 said:
Or maybe he is worried about emmisions in his "Green Machine"and wants to burn any left over fuel away :lol:
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i'll be using the cbr coils ;-) they are the bollox, proven on 1000bhp + cars, no spark drop out at high rpm, will still give a spark at lots of boost, cheap aswell if you find them in the right place 8)jpward said:
the cdi unit i have will only fire 4 coils, regardless on whether they are on the plug or not as wasted spark. (as ed pointed out, of the paired cylinders, 1 fires on intake, 1 on exhaust) I chose the pro 12 as the ecu i was planning on getting required lots of messing about to run sequential (crank trigger, cam phase sensor). With the motec its alot less hassle :doh: so could've gone with the pro14 that would then run sequential, but never mind, it'll do :lol:
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I am thinking about going similar route with the AEM but it seams a lot more cost although you do have a more precise ignition.noriek2003 said:
For crank trigger can you not just use the CAS disc as i thought it was a 24 & 1 pick up??? :?
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noriek2003 said:
Yeah you could say i know someone who has a drawer full of them but thats the easy bit to get its the CDI and wiring+setup thats the costly bit :sad:
noriek2003
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in regards to it being to much hassle to run dizzyless, if you look at the cost of renewing everything nissan, adding uprated coils, leads and then still having spark problems, i'd say a cdi unit or standalone dizzyless set up is a worthwhile option.
but then again im a spec list parts whore... :lol:
but then again im a spec list parts whore... :lol:
noriek2003
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yeah, with the motec i have alot more options but theres no real point getting rid of the pro12 now. Half the reason my dumb car still isn't finished is because i kept chopping and changing my mind, getting rid of stuff i decided i didn't want etc.etc..jpward said:
its a costly way of doing things :doh: :lol:
i was looking through some piccies of my build and it like i've done 3 cars :doh::lol: on the downward slope now though 8)
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No no :lol:tenfoloten said:
No harm done as I am paying I wanted to agree the final dimentions accounting for everything!
Look at the AEM site and you will see their rails thats what it will look like ;-)
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noriek2003 said:
New signature perhaps
noriek2003
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the m&w stuff is pretty easy to set up aslong as you have an ecu that will trigger it, 2 wires for each coil, 12v from the battery, a ground, trigger from the ecu and a switched 12v. Probably something else i've forgotten but the manuals and drawings are good.jpward said:
tec automotive do a unit that is independant of any ecu
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noriek2003
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i think.jpward said:New signature perhaps
'i've been very stupid'
would be better :lol:
oh yeah, think its cost me less than £400 including the coils so not that expensive really.
tenfoloten
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can you post me the link please?