quickest gearbox fitting times..

[noriek2003]

i just drop the box down onto my chest and stomach to remove it.

i shall be thinking of you lying on your back with a gearbox pinned to your chest and chuckle to myself next time i put mine in/take it out, whilst i'm standing on 2 feet, smoking a fag and having a cold one ;-) :lol:

 

[STU4X4]

sorry to be a pain about this but ive gotta change a box soon and was going t do it as a complete engine out job.

So appart from the obvious driveshafts,gearbox mounts,linkage,propshaft etc how are you getting the box out and are you leaving the transfer box behind or removing that too?? :der:

 

[johnsy]

does anyone fancy doing a how too!!

 

[rx jamie]

spot on, good for you, all those mods will clearly come in handy the next time your driving to work wrc style and need to whip the engine out on the A road with your pit crew. but why, to remove the gearbox, do you need to remove the loom? or the rad? or the specially had crafted inlet manifold?or the radiator? or the turbo? or the exhaust downpipe? or anything like that to remove the box? your not helping any members who havent done a gearbox before, you just showing off now.
just calm down i wasnt taking the piss i just mearly mentioning that, that isnt whats needed to remove the gearbox.
if you want to think of me while smoking a fag then go for it, im not in the most part bothered. however your clearly pissed off by an off the cuff remark i made and have sat frustrated typing with frury resulting in 3 posts. good on you. im quite happy knowing that i can do it in my own time cheaply without having hand crafted tat. im just trying to advise on whats needed and isnt to remove/fit a box.

yeah i'll post a detailed worded how to in the morning, no pics mind .

 

[stevepudney]

spot on, good for you, all those mods will clearly come in handy the next time your driving to work wrc style and need to whip the engine out on the A road with your pit crew. but why, to remove the gearbox, do you need to remove the loom? or the rad? or the specially had crafted inlet manifold?or the radiator? or the turbo? or the exhaust downpipe? or anything like that to remove the box? your not helping any members who havent done a gearbox before, you just showing off now.
just calm down i wasnt taking the piss i just mearly mentioning that, that isnt whats needed to remove the gearbox.
if you want to think of me while smoking a fag then go for it, im not in the most part bothered. however your clearly pissed off by an off the cuff remark i made and have sat frustrated typing with frury resulting in 3 posts. good on you. im quite happy knowing that i can do it in my own time cheaply without having hand crafted tat. im just trying to advise on whats needed and isnt to remove/fit a box.

yeah i'll post a detailed worded how to in the morning, no pics mind .

ooooooh !! handbags at dawn :lol::lol::lol:

Fcuk me it's only a friggin car, why do people get so worked up about it. Rather than wasting time writng a how to, get a life instead.

 

[kirko]

Rather than wasting time writng a how to, get a life instead.

ahem... could you write a detailed ''how to'' on getting a life also:roll::roll: i think it will help a few of our more junior memnbers on the site

 

[noriek2003]

have sat frustrated typing with frury resulting in 3 posts. .

you really think i got upset by you :lol:

im about as frustrated as hugh hefner in his jim jams looking at his bunch of lovelies 24/7

 

[noriek2003]

So appart from the obvious driveshafts,gearbox mounts,linkage,propshaft etc how are you getting the box out and are you leaving the transfer box behind or removing that too?? :der:

when i do them i pull the diff out, leaving the transfer box on the car, lower the engine on a jack and drop the box, you need to take the mounts completely off the box as it wont clear the chassis leg.

the only problem with doing a box with the engine in is if someone has used a nut gun on the brackets up the back it can be hard to get them undone due to the space

heres a how to i did on a different site

I used to be an advocate of dropping the engine to do a gtir clutch/box swap until it dawned on me one day that there was a much easier way. Almost definately known by a few before me but always kept quiet and never detailed in public...lol

I dont have any pics of the whole process but its pretty simple once you know whats what, depending on what additional bits are on the car there maybe some more work required but the basics of it are, but not necessarily in this order....

Depending on airfilter position, remove it and the inlet duct for access, same with anything else that gets in the way..lol..Drain the gearbox and transfer box oil, get the front pipe out of the way, if you want to, remove the prop from the transfer box but you can leave it.

If its still fitted this is one of the hardest parts of the job..

Get the y bracket off, (the very mention of the y bracket pissed me off...lol) Once its off its best off chucking it away at the earliest oppotunity, Now, remove driveshafts/axles, (once undone you can do this without touching the lower ball joints, drop the hub from the strut, and anything connected to the strut (abs, brake line) off so you can push it up out of the way and get enough movement on the hub. Pull the steering full lock towards the side you are doing and wrestle with it, the shaft will come out of the hub) Pop the shafts out of the box/transfer box and put some where safe.

you are now ready for the clever bit that makes it possible to get the box off with the engine in situ

undo the cast bracket that fits to the transfer box end case. Now, undo the transfer box end case, and pull the diff out, (do not lose the shim that sits in the end case) the connecting shaft is part of the diff and comes with it.

unbolt the clutch slave cylinder from the box (doing it this way instead of removing the banjo means no need to re-bleed when refitting) get the lines unclipped and get it out the way, unplug reverse light switch and remove earth. Undo shift stabiliser, undo selector rod from box.

support gearbox with a jack and have another one on the underside of the engine, remove front and rear stabliser mounts, the bracket for the rear stabilser mount needs to come off, remove both gear box mounts from chassis, remove rear gearbox mount completely from gearbox case, (if you dont do this you will not get the gear box out)

with the box supported, get rid of the starter motor and start undoing anything that looks like its holding the gearbox on..lol..theres a few sneaky ones underneath. But the 'bastard bolt ' is the worst, you want to get this out first, the 'bastard bolt' goes through the tf box into the gearbox, theres 2 you need to do, but only one is the 'bastard bolt'..lol..These 2 bolts live sort of under the starter motor right down by the speedo sensor which is on top of the tf box. The 'bastard bolt' is easier to get at if you remove the speedo sensor, when you get the 'bastard bolt' out, throw it in the bin, you will be glad you did next time you have to get the box off

that should be it, although i've probably forgotten something, the box is ready to come off. drop the jacks as far as they need to go without the front engine mount touching the chassis rail and wiggle the gear box off, being careful not to drop it on your fingers.

drag it outta the way and you now have access to the clutch.

only pics i have are these :

This one shows just how little you need to drop the engine, the bumper was off for a different reason, it can stay on

This one shows what you should be looking at if i remembered everything in the above how to

( ignore the connecting shaft being there, we put it back for the pics, to throw people off..lol..but with it in, you can clearly see why it needs to come out)

all of that shouldn't take you anymore than a couple of hours once you get good at them

Tbh, the first time, if you have never done a gtir clutch with the engine out at least, be prepared for lots of swearing, a few sulks and maybe some tears

fitting is reverse. Although you will need to add sealent to the tf box end case before putting it back on, make sure the shim is still in the end case...Be warned, when putting the diff back into the tf box make sure the connecting shaft has fully located into the gearbox, you will know if it hasn't as the end case will not pull up properly and you will strip threads. If its in properly the end case will sit close to the body of the tf box and pull up easily, any resistance and the diff/connecting shaft is not fully located

 

[gtir_pimp]

so you can do a gearbox change in 4-5 hours then? could/would you do it for people who needed it changed? you could make some good cash on the side! half of what garages charge if you find it easy?! it sounds very straight forward but i doubt i would be confident enought to try it

 

[noriek2003]

could/would you do it for people who needed it changed?

i dont really work on other people gtirs anymore tbh

 

[ashills]

one big thing to remember if doing this is make sure the three sections of transfer box dont come apart or youll have to reseal them and its a bastard in situ u only want to dislodge the end plate then put a bolt back in after the shaft and end plate is removed with a small spacer on it as when you wiggle the box about to get it on and off it can open the other sections of the transfer case