manual or electronic boost controller?

Perrin21

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change spring in forge actuator? or buy electronic?

How do i change the spring in a forge actuator? is it simple? ive never done anything engine related before? anyone have a how to? thats whats already fitted to my car.
 
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skiddusmarkus

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Most people would have to take the turbo off to do it, so easier to fit something like this:



Its a Dawes type device which is just a posh bleed valve that will let you control the boost.
 

Perrin21

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i just want it to be set and forget. not into flashing lights lol. i only drive the car a few times a month, when i do its just to blast about lol
 

skiddusmarkus

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I have the forge actuator and I cannot change the spring in situ as a couple of the grub screws holding the top on are blocked by the gearbox housing, so it would need to come off to do it.If you fit a mechanical controller you can set it a few psi higher than the actuator is rated at and leave it at that, will take minutes to do.
 

stumo

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Most people would have to take the turbo off to do it, so easier to fit something like this:



Its a Dawes type device which is just a posh bleed valve that will let you control the boost.
sorry but a bleed valve shouldn't go anywhere near a GTiR (or any other car for that matter....except for Fords cos Ford owners are wankers)

and a dawes device is anything but a posh bleed valve (but i know what you meant)

I would sooner have a dawes than one of the usual electronic boost controllers that's usually fitted.
 

PobodY

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I would sooner have a dawes than one of the usual electronic boost controllers that's usually fitted.
I quite agree. I had an EVC III which went in the bin in favour of a dawes device... admittedly the solenoid had gone on the EVC, but for the sake of an overboost alarm and some glowing lights it wasn't really doing anything useful. - As you say, set-and-forget. I'll control the boost whilst cruising with my right foot.

I'm sure there was a big thread on Skylines Australia (SAU) along the lines of "the best boost controller ever", which is where I first came across them.
 

Animaldaz

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I bought a Dawes type device as stop gap until an EBC came up, needless to say I've still got it and have no intention of changing. It works perfectly, holds boost well and cost about £20! No brainer really.
 

johnny gtir

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depends what you want or the power your running. apexi avcr is a very good pice of kit easy to use after inital set up many good features it has
 

PobodY

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Look if people like to have the displays on their dashboard with flashing lights and chirping alarms, that's ok; you don't need to defend that really. - My feeling is that the simplest solutions often turn-out to be the best in the long run, and that the cost of an electronic controler can be better spent elsewhere. Obviously that's not an issue for everyone.
 

campbellju

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+1 for a Dawes device first rather than a stiffer actuator spring as it will improve the response of the turbo.

+1 for bleed valves belong in the bin.
 

johnsy

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im not complaining like my car came with a Avcr fitted, and can't really fault it, in fact its a great bit of kit once you get used to it you can turn the boost up and down with ease and monitor any spike or tailing off, control how the boost is applied through the gears,monitor rpm bla bla

so +1 for A-pexi AVCR,
 

Fire & skill

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just pick what ever one you fancy, one is fit and forget while the other is able to do a lot more, has a boost readout, can be switched from std to low to high boost (handy when its getting work done to it and you dont want them ragging it). you can also adjust the gain and has a high boost cut out feature. depends what you are after really, they both do the same job. I've used both and tbh wouldnt favour one over the other, but I do like the extra features of an electronic valve controller. The one I have fitted just now is hidden in the centre console / cubby hole.
 
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johnny gtir

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Whats power got to do with anything :lol:

I'm using an hks actuator and a dawes device and it works perfectly at 1.7 bar.
im not complaining like my car came with a Avcr fitted, and can't really fault it, in fact its a great bit of kit once you get used to it you can turn the boost up and down with ease and monitor any spike or tailing off, control how the boost is applied through the gears,monitor rpm bla bla

agreed what i ment by power was for example features like controll of boost in gears can make a big difference if set up properly and i find can help with prolonging the life of the gear box clutch etc maybe something that would not matter at lower bhp but surley helps when your running bigger power but have not been able to afford to upgrade the box yet. mine is set and gets left unless it goes in for a mot etc where the average mot tester/person would not know how to adjust it not that they should be taking your car out but you never know and alot of mot stations up my way have no 4 wheel rollers for breake tests so are to road test and use there discression.i have used the monitoring side of it many times fair enough when ur foot is planted it means nothing but when my car would not start i set the tps and checked sensor voltages from it.
 

Perrin21

Member
ok im going with simplicity. what is the best basic manual controller? can someone post a link to a decent one they have used. There are a few on ebay but i dont want to buy sh1t.
 
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