kirko said:
at what point of tune do we need to think about changing the ecu
tbh,having sampled both methods,i'd go for a stand alone ecu as quickly as you can possibly afford it.while you can get good results from the apexi units,for the same spec you'll get far more power/torque with even the most basic of ecu's.
i used to think that the apexi's were the mutt's and couldn't understand why people were continually getting their ecu's remapped every time they changed their spec but,i know better now
for power/torque production,you just can't beat a half decent mappable ecu.you'll also notice a big difference in smoothness as well.